cband RFI measurements.
last updated 31may13
05jun13:
5-6 Ghz on the telescope after rfi turned off.
04jun13: 2nd
trip to yiyi's tower. Source of 5020 rfi.
31may13: 5020
Mhz rfi coming from yiyi avila's tower.
11apr13: 4920 rfi present 06apr13-09apr13.
27mar13:
6900-7050 rfi seen 11mar13,16mar13 by chris salter
25sep12:cbandHi
azSwings using 6-7 Ghz
28aug12:
azswings 5-6 ghz.
28aug12:5275 xpernet test from jonathan
friedman's house
21mar12: 5990-6020 microwave link interference.
30sep11: 6580-6610Mhz rfi cbandhi
24sep10: 5670 MHz rfi.
06apr13: 4920 rfi appears for 4 days (top)
Rfi at 4920 MHz (+/-4,5 MHz) appeared on
06apr13 and remained continuously on until 09apr13.
On 08apr13 time domain data was taken with the mock spectrometer.
The setup was:
- cband receiver centered at 4920 MHz.
- mock spectrometer:
- time domain sampling, 8 bits, polA only, bw=13.2332 MHz
- 20 seconds of data taken
- Telescope: az=280, za=10 degrees.
the dynamic spectra shows 250
millisecs of spectral data with .154 millisecond resolution (.gif)
- 2K spectra were computed (6Khz resolution)
- There are horizontal stripes at 3 millisec spacing.
- a large burst occurs every 102 milliseconds.
The plots show the average
spectra as well as total power vs time (.ps) (.pdf)
- Page 1:
- top: average spectra
(for .46 seconds).
- The rfi covers 4915.5 - 4924.5
- Part of the spike at 4920 MHz may be the DC component from
the digitizers.
- This looks like the ofdm spectra from the expernet test we
did from jonathans house (see below).
- Bottom: Total power vs time for .62 seconds.
- The total power was computed over the 9 MHz of the rfi.
- the time resolution was 154 usecs.
- The large spikes occur every 102 millisecs. these are the
wide bursts in the dynamic spectra.
- Page 2:
- top: blowup of total power vs time
- Some of the power spacings are:
- green: .6 milliseconds
- blue: 3.0 milliseconds
- red 102 milliseconds
- Bottom: spectra of total power.
- the entire 20 seconds of total power data was transformed:
y=abs(fft(tp)) .. no squaring.
- periods found in the total power data:
- red: 329.8 hz
- green: 337.4hz
- The spikes were spread a bit. The period of the rfi varied
a little during the 20 seconds.
The hilltop monitoring plots show when the birdie came and went:
Summary:
- rfi appeared at 4920 MHz on 06apr13 at 23:00. It went
away at 16:00 09apr13
- the rfi was 9 MHz wide
- the average spectra looks like an ofdm spectra
- The power output was periodic with periods of:
- .6 milliseconds, 3 milliseconds, 102 milliseconds.
- the 102 millisecond output was much stronger than the other
2.
- Looking at the FCC database, the band allocations are:
- Government:
- Non government
- On 08apr13 the cb helical antenna and the anritsu spectrum
analyzer was used from the platform to determine the direction
of the rfi.
- The rfi is coming from the direction of yiyi avila's tower.
It could also be a tower near his.
- Assuming it was not a governmental transmission, the rfi was
probably illegal.
processing: x101/cbrfi_4920_td.pro
cbrfi_4920_hilltop.sc
28aug12: 5275MHz Expernet test from
Jonathan Friedman's house. (top)
Expernet (xairnet) delivers wireless internet:
Jonathan friedman is installing the service at his house (about 1
mile from ao). We did a test on 28aug12 to see how the service
affects the cband system. The setup was:
- cband receiver used. 5-6 Ghz monitored.
- Telescope fixed at az=340, za=15 (this is an approximate
direction for Jonathan's house.
- mock spectrometer, 7 boxes, covering 5-6 ghz. 1 second dumps
- Each box 8192 channels, 172MHz, polA,B recorded.
- We started recording data.
- Jonathan did an uplink transfer, two downlink
transfers, and an uplink transfer.
- Each transfer was about 25 Mbytes.
- During the last uplink transfer, we moved the azimuth from
345 to 320 degs at -.4 deg/sec.
Dynamic spectra were made during the transfers for each of the 7
bands:
- The horizontal lines show when the transfers occurred.
- sec 134: start uplink
- sec 213: start downlink
- sec 281: start downlink
- sec 525: start uplink.
- at second 446 the azimuth moved to az=445.
- at second 480 the azimuth starting moving 445 -> at -.4
deg/sec.
- PolA and polB have been averaged.
-
cfr
MHz
(.gif files)
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low -
high freq
MHz
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Notes
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5075
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4990-5160
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5225
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5140-5310
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includes 5275
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5260
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5175-5345
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includes
5275
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5375
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5290-5460
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5525
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5440-5610
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5475-5485 Mhz has
rfi during 1st 2 transfers
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5675
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5590-5760
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5825
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5740-5910
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- 5270 -5280 MHz was the frequency used.
- There is also power coming and going at 5475-5485 during the
1st two transfers.
The plots show the strength
of the signal (.ps) (.pdf):
- Top: total power (5270-5279.5 MHz) vs time.
- The y axis has been scaled to Tsys.
- The green dashed lines show the start of the xfer.
- The blue dashed lines show the end of each xfer.
- middle: The average spectra for xfer on and xfer off.
- Red: average spectra during the down started at 213 seconds.
- Black: Average spectra 242-263 seconds when no xfer was
occurring.
- Bottom: A blowup of the average on,off spectra.
- The channel spacing is about 160 Khz.
- Part (or all) of the spike in the middle is coming
from the mock spectrometer (DC).
Summary:
- Expernet is transmitting from yiyi Avila's tower (roncador) at
5275 MHz with 10 MHz bw.
- Within the 10 MHz Band, Tsys increases by about 10-30% during
a transmission,.
- The downloads are stronger than the uploads.
- The data rates achieved were:
- uploads: .45, .47 Mbytes/sec
- Downloads: 1.1,.56 Mbytes/sec
- The azimuth position for the maximum signal was not used (not
sure what is is)
- This is part of the 5.25-5.35GHz U-NII (Unlicensed National
Information Infrastructure band).
- 5275 MHz would be channel
54 in the 802.11 (a/h/j,n) standard.
- I'm not sure how this transmitter at Jonathan's house relates
to the 4 mile exclusion rule for towers around AO.
processing:x101/120828/jonhouse.pro
21mar12: rfi 5990 - 6020 Mhz rfi (top)
Chris salter reported rfi at 5990 to 6020 Mhz
using the cband receiver. This is getting in the way of a red
shifted line of OH??
The plots show an example of
the rfi (.ps) (.pdf):
- The data was taken from file:
wapp.20120201.a2334.0001.fits, scans:203200094,95
- Page 1: spectral density on/off -1
- These are 300 second on/off -1 spectra taken with cband
high.
- The vertical scale is Tsys (about 30K). So the on/off max
deviation is about .3 K.
- The channel width is 48Khz (100Mhz/4096 then hanning
smoothed).
- Black is pola, red is polB
- I've removed the continuum from the source (subtracted
median).
- Top: this is 5990 - 6020 mhz that chris reported
- 2nd: 6060-6090
- 3rd looks like 2.5 Mhz bands
- 4th: 6220 - 6250
- Page 2: rms/mean
- the rms/mean for each channel of the 300 1seccond off recs
was computed and then plotted.
- This measures the variability in each channel.
- For 48 KHz 1 sec channels this should be
Looking through the rfi database (searching by geographic
location and frequency range) i found:
- WQLC960 Puerto Rico state police
- Transmitter at: 18:23:25.0, 66:59:44.0
- highway 446R, isabela. A little north east of san sebastian.
- ASR # 1013172.
- antenna height 9.1 meters
- beamwidth:2.0 deg
- Frequency: 6004.5 , 30 Mhz bw,
- emission designator: 30MOD7W
- baseband digital rate (kbps):155600.9
- digital modulation type: 128TCM
- Receiver: 18:17:22.1, 66:39:37.3 (radio redentor tower
in utuado).
- Quiet zone notification date: 8/28/2009.
- quiet zone consent : Yes
- Looking at google maps with the coordinates, it looks like
this line of site comes close to the observatory.
- I did not see this signal in the hilltop monitoring system.
Summary:
- microwave links around 6 ghz look to be about 30 Mhz (from the
fcc database).
- The 5090-6020 rfi is from a microwave link used by the pr
police. WQLC960
- It is about .3 kelvin measured in a 300 sec on/off.
- The link goes from 18:23:25 (xmiter) to 66:59:44.0 (radio
redentor)
- Using google maps this line of sight passes close to the
observaory
- The beamwidth of xmiter is 2deg
- we visited the radio redentor tower a while back. I remember
seeing this microwave link antenna and it looked like it was
crossing the observatory.
- This request was ok'ed by the ao quiet zone on 8/28/2009
- There are a number of other 30 Mhz microwave link
interferer's in chris's data.
Processing:
x101/120317/chk_a2334_rfi.pro
30sep11: rfi 6580-6610 Mhz cband hi
(top)
Rfi was reported in cband high on data taken
30sep11.. It covered 6580 to 6610 Mhz. This rfi had been seen before
back in jun11.
The plots show the rfi from a
300 second "on source" observation (.ps) (.pdf):
- top: 300 second peak hold. Red is polA, green is polB. You can
see the rfi sticking up between 6580 and 6610.
- When averaging the 300 seconds, the rfi does not stick up
very much.
- Bottom: rms/mean by channel for the 300 seconds of data. There
are large variations in time along each channel.
Dynamic spectra for 300 seconds
of data (.gif):
- The image has been flattened by the median spectra (so the rfi
gets divided by its median value.
- You can also see some modulation +/- 35 Mhz from the 6595 Mhz
center.
Source of rfi:
- the rfi has been seen in the hilltop monitoring data since
19apr11.
- It has a bandwidth of 30 Mhz.
- There is a 2nd 30 Mhz band close to 6255 Mhz in the hilltop
data
- The 6595 Mhz rfi is a microwave link from mount roncador
in utuado (yiyi avila's tower). The fcc uls listing shows:
- WPOR538 AT&T Mobility Puerto
Rico Inc. 0003473709
CF Active 02/01/2021
- 6595 is Roncador to arecibo
- 6256 is also Roncador to arecibo.
- The plot shows the
transmitter location and the directions that it broadcasts
(.ps) (.pdf)
- The link that goes from Roncador to arecibo looks like it
passes over the observatory.
- The coordinates for the Roncador tower, Arecibo site,
and AO observatory (gps center of az bearing)
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location
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lat
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long
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roncador
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18:13:59
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66:45:35.0
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Arecibo
TCI
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18:28:49.8
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66:45:36.6
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arecibo
observatory
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18:20:39.44
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66:45:10
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- The longitude for the link is pretty much north, south
with the AO only 25 asecs away.
- looking at the fcc uls listing for this freq:
- quiet zone notification 5/16/2011, quiet zone consent: Y
- strange that they showed up in in the hilltop monitoring
one month before the quiet zone notification.
- Did we have any say in this microwave link passing over
AO?
processing: x101/110930/a2622.pro
24sep10: birdie
around 5670 (top)
Rfi has appeared at 5670 MHz
- On the telescope using the cband receiver: 8 MHz about 5670
(take 18aug10).
- In the hilltop monitoring system. here is takes about 20 MHz
to come back down to the noise baseline. this system only has
2.5 MHz resolution.
- Rfi appeared at 5700 on 24jun09.
- It moved to 5670 on 18sep09 (where it has remained).
- ieee 802.11 (wireless ethernet) has channels close
to these frequencies 5680 (20MHz) and 5700 MHz. this may or may
not be coming from this.
the first plot shows the data
in the cband receiver (.ps) (.pdf)
- black is polA, red is polB. The vertical scale is in units of
Tsys.
- Top: 5 second integration +/- 6MHz about 5670.
- middle: .1 second average
- bottom: .1 second average blowup in freq.
the second plots shows Hilltop
monitoring data with 8 MHz about ieee802.11 channels (.ps) (.pdf)
- The plots show hilltop monitoring for 2009 thru 2010:23sep10.
- The horizontal axis is days after 01jan09.
24jun10,18sep09, and 01jan10 are flagged width colors.
- The vertical scale is dbm read from the spectrum analyzer on
the hilltop monitoring system.
- 8 MHz about each of the frequencies has been averaged.
- the 801.11 channels are 20 MHz wide. On the spectrum analyzer
the 5670 birdies looks about 20 MHz baseline to baseline.
- The 5680 is just leaking from the 5670.
- the top plot:5670 is not the center of an 802.11 channel. the
others are.
summary:
- The 5670 birdie started at 5700 24jun09 then moved to 5670 on
18sep09.
- It has remained present since 18sep09.
- On the telescope it looks about 8 MHz wide.
- On the hilltop monitor system it is about 15db above the noise
floor.
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