3rd harmonics of FM stations in the 327
receiver
13jan06
30apr12: 104.1,102.9 harmonics from route
10.
On 30apr12 we took the rfi van up route 10 to
look at the 3rd harmonics of the FM stations:
- 104.1 (radio redentor). 3rd harmonic: 312.3
- 102.9 (HQ) 3rd harmonic: 308.7
The 327 Mhz receiver has seen:
- the 3rd harmonic of these stations.
- A comb about these 3rd harmonics spaced by 3*(the difference
of the fundamentals). This comb varies with the strength of the
3rd harmonics.
The setup for the measurements:
- antennas are located within a few hundred meters of each other
at: 18:2895,-66.6604 (lat,long)
- the van was parked on route10 at:18.289,-66.7074
- We were looking due west at the towers
- I then used google maps to get this longitude on route 10.
- The distance to the towers was about 3 miles
- the log periodic antenna was placed on a mast and the mast was
then placed in the holder at the back of the van to give a
stable pointing direction.
- The anritsu model:Ms2713E spectrum analyzer was used to record
the data.
- rbw: .03 Mhz, toavg:100
- a peak hold was taken at the same time
The plots show the
spectrum analyzer measurements (.ps) (.pdf):
- Top: the fundamentals of the radio stations:
- black: average 100 sweeps, red: peak hold
- Bottom: the 3rd harmonics of the stations:
- black: average 100 sweeps
- red peak hold:
- The vertical dashed line is the computed location of the 3rd
harmonics.
- When monitoring the 3rd harmonic, the strength of the 100
sweep average was changing with time. It would go from "buried
in the noise" to sticking way up
Summary:
- The strength of the 100 sweep average of the 3rd harmonics was
changing in time. It's probably better to compare the peak
holds.
-
|
102.9 station
|
104.1 station
|
fundamentals
|
-52.9dbm
|
-64.7dbm
|
3rdHarmonics
|
-109 dbm
|
-104.8dbm
|
3rdHarmonic/Fundamental(db)
|
-56.1 db
|
-40.1 db
|
- The 3rd harmonic of 104.1 is the worse. Only 40 db below the
fundamental. It's peak hold fundamental also looks a little
asymmetric.
- The azimuth dependence for the 104.1*3 Mhz data (see 2005/2006
az dependence plots bekiw) has the peak at az=110. This has the
azimuth pointing pretty close to the towers.
- Mike nolan the following link for the allowable emitted power
(fcc
7i3.318 .pdf)
- for power > 600 khz from carrier:
- attenuation must be 43 + log10(kwPwr) or 80 db down from
unmodulated carrier (whichever is less).
- The 104.1 is a 50 Kw station so the first section gives
about 89 db down.
- So they should be 80 db down from the unmodulated carrier.
- Unfortunately i don't have a measurement of the
unmodulated carrier???
processing:
x101/120430/rfitowers.pro
2005-2006: measurements made on the
telescope:
Links to plots/images:
strength
and
azimuth dependence of the harmonics (.ps) (.pdf)
dynamic
spectra
of first azimuth spin(.gif)
2005/2006 Summary (top)
Third harmonics of FM radio stations are showing up in the
327 Mhz receiver.
They are not being created in the receiver since they remain
when rf filters are placed in front of the first amp.
Some show a constant azimuth dependence, some are more
variable in time.
Some of the harmonics are weaker because they fell at the
edge of the 25 Mhz filter that we were using.
there is a comb 1.2 Mhz apart around the 308.7 and 312.3 3rd
harmonics of 102.9 and 104.1.
The FM stations:
The whip antenna and the spectrum analyzer was
used to measure the strength of the FM stations at the observatory
(the whip is not on the platform so there may be a difference). The
spectrum analyzer was set to a span of 10 Mhz (about 300Khz rbw).
| freq |
strength on
spec Analyzer
(dbm) |
3rd Harmonic |
| 107.3 |
-33 |
321.9 |
| 102.9 |
-39.3 |
308.7 |
| 104.1 |
-42.8 |
312.3 |
| 100.3 |
-57 |
300.9 * |
| 106.5 |
-65 |
319.5 |
| 101.9 |
-68 |
305.7 * |
| 100.7 |
-68 |
302.1 * |
| 105.7 |
-79 |
317.1 |
* these frequencies are outside the 327 band we measured.
2005-2006 data
The azimuth swing data from 28oct05 was
used to check out the strength of the harmonics (see 327
az
swings). There were 5 complete azimuth spins between -90 and
+270 deg azimuth. The dome was at 19 deg. A 25 Mhz band was centered
at 320 Mhz with 2048 channels. The azimuth moved at .3 deg/sec.
The plots show the strength
and
azimuth dependence of the harmonics (.ps) (.pdf):
- Fig 1 has the average spectra for each az spin.
Each azimuth spin is plotted in a different color. The top plot
is the mean, the center plot is the median, and the bottom plot
is a peak hold for each spin. The dashed lines are the 3rd
harmonics of the FM stations. The vertical units are Tsys. The
308.7 birdie is small because it is on the edge of the 25 Mhz
filter.
- Fig 2 plots harmonic strength versus azimuth for all 4
signals. 20 channels about each FM harmonic were averaged
and then plotted versus azimuth angle. Each color is a
different azimuth spin. Each plot is a different FM station
harmonic. The azimuth repeatability is not perfect (probably
because of the time variation of the signal).
- Fig 3: 308.7 (FM 102.9) strength vs az in 90 degree
sections. This blows up the azimuth scale a bit.
- Fig 4: 312.3 (FM 104.1) strength vs az in 90 degree
sections.
- Fig 5: 319.5 (FM 106.5) strength vs az in 90 degree
sections.
- Fig 6: 321.9 (FM 107.3) strength vs az in 90 degree
sections.
The strongest harmonic is 312.3 from FM 104.1
followed by 321.9 (107.3), 308.7 (102.9), and then 319.5 (106.5).
The dynamic
spectra of the first az spin also shows that 312.3 is the
strongest/most spread out signal
2005/2006: Some observations:
- The 321.9 and 319.5 harmonics were still present when
the hipass,
bandpass
filter were placed in front of the first amp
(the other two were outside the filter band). So the birdies are
coming from outside the receiver (most likely from the FM
station).
- We listened to the 321.9 Mhz and 312.3 Mhz birdie in the 2nd
IF with a radio receiver. We could hear the FM station on the
radio at the 3rd harmonic.
- The dynamic
spectra showed that occasionally a large number of
birdies occurred together
- frequencies:308.7 309.9 311.07 313.1 314.3
317.5 318.9.
- These are spaced by 1.2 Mhz. This is the same
difference as 104.1-102.9 (the 2nd and 3rd strongest FM
stations.
- 308.7 is one of the FM harmonics.
- At another time we heard the 107.3 FM station at 317.5 (it
should be at 321.9). The difference (321.9-317.5) is 4.4 Mhz:
the same difference between the FM stations fundamentals.
2005/2006:Conclusions/todo:
- 308.7, 312.3, 319.5, and 321.9 are 3rd harmonics of FM
stations that are not created in the receiver.
- We should do field measurements to see if the transmitters
are within specs. We might want to think about buying them some
filters. We should start with 312.3 (104.1 radio redentor whose
transmitter is in utuado). (see above measurements).
- What's going on with the bursts of 7 frequencies at once. Why
is one of them the 3rd harmonic of the FM station shifted by 4
Mhz. Did the filters make this go away are were we just unlucky
to have them there on the 28oct05?
processing: Y05/051028/FM_harmonics.pro
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